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Hallo Ernie, here are some examples.

Part of UP600:
UP600 6300 AMSEL 35.966667 -7.883333 H
UP600 6310 VFA 37.013400 -7.975100 H F
UP600 6313 SOTEX 38.292778 -8.220000 H F
UP600 6315 MAGUM 39.167433 -8.392419 H F
UP600 6320 FTM 39.665681 -8.492650 H
UP600 6325 MANIK 40.691944 -8.616169 H
UP600 6330 PRT 42.572500 21.031389 H
UP600 6340 TURON 42.067900 -8.563400 H
UP600 6350 STG 48.696428 9.256547 H
UP600 6360 BEGAS 45.000000 -9.000000 H
UP600 6370 LASNO 48.598333 -9.000000 H

The same position error exists on 22 airways for "STG" (Santiago): 6 Low and 16 High Altitude;
10 airways for "PRT" (Porto): 5 Low and 5 High Airways

Part of UN873:
UN873 6675 TORVA 60.784300 5.599000 H F
UN873 6680 ARS 59.586194 16.650389 H F
UN873 6690 LINSA 59.724500 17.411800 H F
UN873 6700 DODAM 60.044444 19.301667 H F
UN873 6710 MAR 37.055317 -4.939886 H F
UN873 6715 BUKOT 60.196111 20.540556 H F
UN873 6720 TUNUS 60.388611 23.086389 H F
UN873 6724 LAKUT 60.438056 23.876389 H F
UN873 6728 MAROM 60.447778 24.043611 H F

The same position error exists on 15 airways for "MAR" (MARIE): 6 Low and 9 High Altitude;
"TORVA" for UN873(High) and N873(Low)

Part of B491:
B491 5800 URULA 44.810000 38.633333 B
B491 5810 SM 44.783333 38.800000 B
B491 5820 ATREL 44.253333 40.946667 B
B491 5830 PR 50.144000 14.367300 B
B491 5840 KW 43.398333 132.153333 B
B491 5850 INKUT 43.195000 46.086667 B
B491 5860 MEBOS 42.815000 47.653333 B
B491 5870 OLMAT 42.528333 49.285000 B

Both "PR" (Peredovaya-2 airways) and "KW" (Kislovodsk-3 airways) way out of position!!

This is only a small example of the many position errors i discovered. It seems the wrong intersection/navaid "ID" was used when building the airway file as the postions in the nav's or ints files are correct.

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Ok thanks for that.

I was able to find the problem. Its not an easy fix, so its not likely for this update. But it should hopefully be fixed for the next update.

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Hallo Ernie,
I just downloaded the newest cycle (0813) from the website and had i quick look before updating.
I have the impression that there are still anomalies in it:
just looked at only 3 airways
About >100 deg. difference in longitude for 2 consectutive fixes ?

UN873 6680 ARS 59.586194 16.650389 H F
UN873 6690 LINSA 59.724500 17.411800 H F
UN873 6700 DODAM 37.213333 126.496667 H F
UN873 6710 MAR 60.140900 19.914300 H F
UN873 6715 BUKOT 60.196111 20.540556 H F
UN873 6720 TUNUS 60.388611 23.086389 H F



B492 5660 SH 32.501778 -93.878108 L
B492 5670 LAMEX 48.165000 30.088333 L
B492 5675 LIDNO 48.726944 29.946944 L
B492 5680 GOROS 49.456667 29.758333 L
B492 5690 SL 50.186667 29.563333 L

B491 5760 LENKA 45.363333 35.788333 L
B491 5770 BETEG 45.183333 36.383333 L
B491 5780 PALER 35.270900 -85.351800 B
B491 5790 ANAKA 45.001667 37.348333 B
B491 5800 URULA 44.810000 38.633333 B

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It should be noted that most Australian airways are similarly affected. I have been caught out on a couple of occasions whilst flying VATSIM. I have to pretty much remember to correct almost all waypoints in a given airway (eg W449) otherwise I end up tracking to some place in the northern hemisphere with an estimated time of arrival 39+ hours :? Embarrassing when ATC asks why I am not navigating according to my submitted flight plan.

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